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It could take years to extradite British drunken driver: envoy

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan will maintain its efforts to extradite British national Zain Dean, who was convicted for killing a man in a drunk driving accident in 2012, back to Taipei to serve his jail term as soon as possible, Taiwan's top envoy to the UK said yesterday.

During a legislative session yesterday in Taipei, Shen Lyushun (沈呂巡) said that the extradition hearing on Dean is scheduled for Jan. 8 and Jan. 9 next year.

But it could take as many as one to three years before the British national can finally be sent back to Taipei because it might be a long legal process and Dean could continue to appeal the case, the envoy said.

Dean fled Taiwan in August 2012, shortly before he was due to begin serving a four-year prison term for the 2010 death of a newspaper delivery man in Taipei in a drunk driving hit-and-run accident.

In October, Scottish police arrested Dean and he was detained on the ruling of an Edinburgh court. He was arrested after a memorandum of understanding covering his extradition to Taiwan was signed in October with the UK.

Last Wednesday, a Scottish court rejected a bail motion by Dean. It was the third time the court rejected such a motion from him.

Shen said yesterday that Dean's lawyer repeatedly argued that Taiwan's judicial authorities are not eligible to seek Dean's extradition since Taiwan does not have formal diplomatic ties with the UK.

The court, however, did not accept the argument and ruled that Dean be remanded in custody.

“Justice has been served,” Shen said, adding that the court's decision is a preliminary triumph on Taiwan's part.

December 24, 2013    curtisakbar@
I doubt he will be extradited as the trial for his conviction from what I read was flawed. Whether he killed the man or not won't be argued, the fact he had an unfair trial will. If he is guilty and gets away with it due to the judicial system in Taiwan, it just goes to show like many have said before, the judicial system needs to be improved.
December 24, 2013    ludahai_twn@
Taiwan should seek to have him serve his prison sentence in the U.K. I doubt they will extradite him to Taiwan but allowing him to serve out his sentence in a British prison might be a compromise both sides could live with.
December 24, 2013    whatyoulookinatmygutfer@
curtisakbar@ wrote:
I doubt he will be extradited as the trial for his conviction from what I read was flawed. Whether he killed the man or not won't be argued, the fact he had an unfair trial will. If he is guilty and gets away with it due to the judicial system in Taiwan, it just goes to show like many have said before, the judicial system needs to be improved.
This "flawed trial" accusation only comes from Mr Dean and his friends-- no one else. Do you have any hard evidence to support the claim? I didn't think so. No human rights organization has had anything to say about his trial or conviction. The British government, which quite likely observed the trial, signed an agreement with Taiwan to undertake his extradition and arrested him the day after signing it. What does that say? Perhaps Taiwan does need to improve its judiciary. However, it is more than capable of reaching the right decision in a simple drunk driving case. It certainly did in this case. But some would have us believe the lies of someone who killed someone while driving drunk, tried to sell the car for scrap within hours of doing so and, when caught, tried to accuse innocent bar employees. A real role model of a guy. And, no, his trial will not be picked apart in the UK. That is not what happens during extradition proceedings. Maybe he'll finally reveal his supposed "new evidence" that he kept saying he had before he fled, but I somehow doubt it really exists.
December 25, 2013    zaksmith1990@
ludahai_twn@ wrote:
Taiwan should seek to have him serve his prison sentence in the U.K. I doubt they will extradite him to Taiwan but allowing him to serve out his sentence in a British prison might be a compromise both sides could live with.
No reason why ZD should not be brought back to Taiwan to serve his sentence. He may in fact face further criminal charges for paying for use of another's passport as well.

There was no unfair trial. In the second trial ZD was asked by the Judge, if you did not drive then who was driving at the time of the accident. ZD had nothing to say. He did not point out and say it was anyone else driving.
Suddenly after he flees Taiwan he says he has new evidence. So where is it? Nowhere to be found as it does not exist.
December 25, 2013    jeremy@
If the situation was reversed, Taiwan would not extradite a suspect to the UK as Taiwan has a law forbidding the extradition of its nationals to foreign countries (Article 4 of the Law of Extradition).
December 26, 2013    curtisakbar@
The concern comes with the missing traffic video, was it a dead camera or is someone concealing the video? That is the flaw, to my knowledge no one has answered that question.

Also, it is well known that the Chinese system is biased against the non-yellow people on the island. Example: A Chinese guy in a car almost hits a white guy on a scooter. The white guy flips the Chinese guy the bird, the white guy is arrested and found guilty of public insulting. A sensible court would rule, it was a natural reaction, almost a reflex due to the situation of almost being creamed by a car.
December 31, 2013    galaxietw@
curtisakbar@ wrote:
The concern comes with the missing traffic video, was it a dead camera or is someone concealing the video? That is the flaw, to my knowledge no one has answered that question.

Also, it is well known that the Chinese system is biased against the non-yellow people on the island. Example: A Chinese guy in a car almost hits a white guy on a scooter. The white guy flips the Chinese guy the bird, the white guy is arrested and found guilty of public insulting. A sensible court would rule, it was a natural reaction, almost a reflex due to the situation of almost being creamed by a car.
"it is well known that the Chinese system is biased against the non-yellow people on the island."
I haven't found more biased arguments than yours. To the contrary, I think our judiciary system in FAVOR of non-yellow, especially white people.
Obviously you can't answer those questions above or provide any HARD evidence. And your example sucks.
In ZD's case, he should be arrested without bail immediately if he is a local. See the recent case of Yeh, who hit and run a jogger in Kaohsiung. Six years sentence is the price he pays. For ZD, only four years.
February 17, 2014    csmith@
Dean claims to have been set up, yet no where in his statement of defense does he name the "real driver", the KTV or the KTV manager (who he suggests worked out a deal with the Daan Police head, who he also fails to name!). If you were being set up by such creeps then of course one would point the finger and name names and have it out with them. His friend claims he did this since this would put his partner in danger. But there has been ample time for her to leave the country. If Dean doesn't come clean then he should get set to face the consequences.
February 18, 2014    curtisakbar@
galaxietw

Why does my example suck? Because it shows the flaws in the system? Being a yellow skinned person you don't face the daily racism, a white skinned person does. It is almost akin to 1960s America (not the deep south) when blacks walking down the street would get insults thrown at them, but instead of "ni@@er" it is "foreigner", "alien" and "big nose".

I wasn't there, I don't know if he is guilty or not. There is a small circle of people that can answer that question. I just want justice on this island, not trial by media, as so often is the case.
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