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'Occupy Taipei' rally attracts 300 in protest of widening wealth gap

Echoing the sentiments of the Occupy Wall Street protesters in the United States, around 300 activists yesterday tried to surround Taipei 101 in an "Occupy Taipei" protest to draw attention to the inequitable distribution of wealth in Taiwan.

The protest ended in early evening without causing any major disruptions. Most of the protestors left after several scores of them went inside the landmark building to chant slogans on the first floor of the shopping mall. Similar protests were held in more than 900 cities across the globe yesterday.

The protests, organized on social websites, received moral support from more than 6,000 Facebook users, who pressed the "like" button on a Facebook page to give the protesters their thumbs-up.

In a departure from conventional social movements, the organizers stressed that all the participants in the protest were organizers and spokespersons. All citizens were invited to an "open-air discussion" as a first step in the formation of a consensus on bridging the gap between the haves and have-nots. During the protest, onlookers and representatives of the media choked the surrounding streets. About 50 police officers were on standby nearby.

At 1:01 p.m., the 300 protestors tried to surround Taipei 101, but their number was just enough to form a semicircle. The protesters then went around the building, each with a hand placed on the shoulder of the person infront.

A downpour in the afternoon cut short the outdoor protest, and several scores of the protesters went inside the building, where they marched on the first floor, chanting slogans and singing songs. Some stores and boutiques were shut down while the rally was inside the building.

A spokesman for Taipei 101 said the management of the building could have asked the police to disperse the protesters because businesses were affected by them. However, the police said they would not consider dispersing the crowd unless the business owners complained.

October 16, 2011    ray@
just wastage of time tried to copy U.S.A
October 16, 2011    antoniolin69@
It's a strong message to the 1% tycoons, millionaires, CEOs, telling them that there are still 99% of the people on the planet who are struggling for surviving nearly on basic necessary conditions. Millionaires should know that their wealth comes from the community, they must contribute more to the community. The greediness of the rich and the hatred of protesters would form a vicious circle and take revenges. Only mercy and love can solve this kind of problems. It's time for the rich to reflect and meditate.
I vote for 99%.
October 17, 2011    hansi22352@
wow 300, guess the rest had to work :)
October 17, 2011    charles@
The richest people's incomes in the top of five brackets now stand at 6.19 times the incomes for the bottom bracket, which is actually a drop from 6.34 times during the DPP administration in spite of international financial crises and worldwide economic slowdown.
Re-elect President Ma to see a further narrowing of the wealth gap!
October 18, 2011    vancevain@
antoniolin69@ wrote:
It's a strong message to the 1% tycoons, millionaires, CEOs, telling them that there are still 99% of the people on the planet who are struggling for surviving nearly on basic necessary conditions. Millionaires should know that their wealth comes from the community, they must contribute more to the community. The greediness of the rich and the hatred of protesters would form a vicious circle and take revenges. Only mercy and love can solve this kind of problems. It's time for the rich to reflect and meditate.
I vote for 99%.
I agree with antoniolin69.
October 18, 2011    miller.henry641@
The 0.01 % complaining about the 99.09% who go to work....funny stuff these "occupiers."
October 20, 2011    johnny.brian@
Welcome to a democratic world where anyone can voice his/her own opinion in/on anywhere at anytime. What’s next, a movie? Like 300 (A film in 2006). It would have been a nice local movie title such as 300 Jobless, 300 Goons, 300 Protestors, 300 Useless.
October 21, 2011    major_bob1@
charles@ wrote:
The richest people's incomes in the top of five brackets now stand at 6.19 times the incomes for the bottom bracket, which is actually a drop from 6.34 times during the DPP administration in spite of international financial crises and worldwide economic slowdown.
Re-elect President Ma to see a further narrowing of the wealth gap!
If you really want to "narrow the wealth gap", I believe Chairman Mao had some good ideas you might consider.
(note sarcastic tone)
October 25, 2011    olichu@
Some of these comments are pretty harsh against the protesters. I believe that most of them have legitimate grievances that need to be addressed in any society and/or a particular society. These issues, whether they are in NYC, Taipei, or London, are serious enough to have gained and continue to gain momentum around the world. In a world where the individual voice is drowned out, the Occupy (wherever) is a solidarity of the people's dissatisfaction with society / system / or with the man. Let's give them a break, I am sure they speak for you in one of the many causes that are addressed in the protests.
October 25, 2011    cigars898@
olichu@
Just because you can agree with some points that the protesters make doesn't mean you should protest with them. The "well intended protesters" are sheep whose shepherds are communist revolutionaries and marxist. This whole thing was started by the leaders of SEIU like Steven Lerner. Research Van Jones, he's lovely. I think most Americans are against crony capitalism (which is what the US has become) but they are not socialists and this is not some haphazardly organized protest. This is VERY well planned out and it is attracting a lot of useful idiots. I wouldn't associate with anyone who wants a violent overthrow of the US government. I judge people by their character, and if this is the character of the majority of Americans, there is going to be major chaos coming. Death to tyranny!
October 26, 2011    ludahai_twn@
Occupy Taipei's streets... Fubon Taipei Marathon ... December 18th (sans 5-year-old full marathon runners this year) THEN you will see a real occupation of Taipei...
October 28, 2011    olichu@
cigars898@ wrote:
olichu@
Just because you can agree with some points that the protesters make doesn't mean you should protest with them. The "well intended protesters" are sheep whose shepherds are communist revolutionaries and marxist. This whole thing was started by the leaders of SEIU like Steven Lerner. Research Van Jones, he's lovely. I think most Americans are against crony capitalism (which is what the US has become) but they are not socialists and this is not some haphazardly organized protest. This is VERY well planned out and it is attracting a lot of useful idiots. I wouldn't associate with anyone who wants a violent overthrow of the US government. I judge people by their character, and if this is the character of the majority of Americans, there is going to be major chaos coming. Death to tyranny!
@cigars

"violent overthrow of the US government" is a bit extreme. Let's not exaggerate!

Per your description, these "sheeps" or "idiots", continue to gain attention via media outlets by camping out drawing attention to vital issues. As long as they continue to do so, the media will report it, which reminds legislatures and corporations that we are watching them and will not stand for abuse of power, greed, and etc (whatever people are angry about) Peace!
October 31, 2011    cigars898@
olichu@
I wish it was a bit extreme. This is written with all do respect because I agree and enjoy reading most of your posts.
Here is some info from the Wall Street Journal about how 31% at OWS would support violence to advance their agenda.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html
Here's a little reading on the communist radical Van Jones.
http://thebottomlineat.blogspot.com/2009/09/van-jones-commits-treason.html
Check out his involvement with STORM. This fool was Obama's "Green Jobs Czar". In his own words, "Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward.... I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends."
Read about Bill Ayers (Obama's Buddy)
How do you think these radicals are going to impose Marxism on the US population. These guys are pouring gasoline all over America and they're just waiting for a match to ignite it.
There's going to be violence in the name of "whatever people are angry about." What's your average hardworking citizen going to do? They'll ask the government to "make it stop". Obama may have to step in and sidestep congress with an executive order to control the sheep with the Patriot Act on Steroids (which Obama was so opposed to...but don't worry.)

These groups and media are saying this will be America's Arab Spring. That was ALL about violence and look who comes out controlling those countries? Muslim Brotherhood. Who helped them organize? SEIU, Code Pink, Bill Ayers....
Sounds similar to "I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward."
This is all modeled on the tactics of the radical organizer Saul Alinsky, who stressed the need for revolutionaries to hide the extremism of their objectives and to present themselves as moderates until they could gain some control over the machinery of political power.

I think your missing my point. This isn't a grassroots haphazardly organized protest. Like I said in my earlier post, crony capitalism needs to go. People are pissed about the bailouts. But replace it with Marxism? The useful idiots are a bunch of college students blaming corporations for their student loans? Notice that you never here them blame the universities that charged them their tuition. It's ridiculous. "I graduated from Georgetown with a liberal arts degree. I now have a 250,000 dollar student loan (that's now owned by the government). I can't find a job. Damn those corporations. It's my right to have a job. I'm the 99%." That is my definition of an idiot.
November 2, 2011    olichu@
cigars898@ wrote:
olichu@
I wish it was a bit extreme. This is written with all do respect because I agree and enjoy reading most of your posts.
Here is some info from the Wall Street Journal about how 31% at OWS would support violence to advance their agenda.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html
Here's a little reading on the communist radical Van Jones.
http://thebottomlineat.blogspot.com/2009/09/van-jones-commits-treason.html
Check out his involvement with STORM. This fool was Obama's "Green Jobs Czar". In his own words, "Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward.... I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends."
Read about Bill Ayers (Obama's Buddy)
How do you think these radicals are going to impose Marxism on the US population. These guys are pouring gasoline all over America and they're just waiting for a match to ignite it.
There's going to be violence in the name of "whatever people are angry about." What's your average hardworking citizen going to do? They'll ask the government to "make it stop". Obama may have to step in and sidestep congress with an executive order to control the sheep with the Patriot Act on Steroids (which Obama was so opposed to...but don't worry.)

These groups and media are saying this will be America's Arab Spring. That was ALL about violence and look who comes out controlling those countries? Muslim Brotherhood. Who helped them organize? SEIU, Code Pink, Bill Ayers....
Sounds similar to "I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward."
This is all modeled on the tactics of the radical organizer Saul Alinsky, who stressed the need for revolutionaries to hide the extremism of their objectives and to present themselves as moderates until they could gain some control over the machinery of political power.

I think your missing my point. This isn't a grassroots haphazardly organized protest. Like I said in my earlier post, crony capitalism needs to go. People are pissed about the bailouts. But replace it with Marxism? The useful idiots are a bunch of college students blaming corporations for their student loans? Notice that you never here them blame the universities that charged them their tuition. It's ridiculous. "I graduated from Georgetown with a liberal arts degree. I now have a 250,000 dollar student loan (that's now owned by the government). I can't find a job. Damn those corporations. It's my right to have a job. I'm the 99%." That is my definition of an idiot.
Thanks for the great read, for providing the links, and the encouragement. Sorry to hear about the student loan, you’re not alone. I think Obama has just approved some kind of student loan forgiveness program for that have been paying for 25 years. You might want to look into it. I just glanced over the story last month, so don't know the details.

Student Loans are a great example of what I mean by "bringing attention" to issues we care about. I “would like" to believe that these protests helped bring attention to the exorbitant tuitions and empty promises of a job after graduation, and helped push the student loan legislation to passage.

I agree with you that an extreme leftist view is definitely frightening. With that said, most extremist, by definition, are 'extreme' so they will most likely be called-out. In other words, in a country that is leaning toward one extreme or the other, it is healthy for a country to have opposing extremist views; therefore, be a moderating factor to pull them towards the center. Just my thought!

In short, these protesters may represent the opposite extreme of what the corporate extremist have already done to the country. Either way, I believe it is part of the political process and a healthy process towards a better government.

Again, great discussion and new info. Peace!!
November 2, 2011    cigars898@
olichu@

Here's a link to the backers of OWS.
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/31/the-99-official-list-of-ows/
He that walketh with wise men shall be wise but a companion of fools shall be. Proberbs 13:20

By the way, I don't have any student loans. I was being facetious. I've heard people complaining that they owe 250,000 and came out with a degree that will start them at 30,000 a year. The financial IQ of most graduates is so bad (and I would say by design after reading Robert Kiyosaki's Conspiracy of the Rich). My point was, why would you go into that much debt, when the payoff will never come.

I think Obama's student loan plan is smoke and mirrors and just adds to the problems that everyone's enraged about. Instead of bailing out corporations, were going to start bailing out individuals that made obvious mistakes?

No one is complaining about the tuition rates at OWS because you've got Marxist professors teaching these sheep that the free market is to blame. We need to teach self-responsibility not entitlement. Check out Francis Fox Piven
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven
Piven and husband wrote a doosey called: The Cloward–Piven Strategy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
It would have been a good read on Halloween.
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