Jury watches interviews in Canada murder trial

Jurors in the murder trial of a pig farmer accused of slaying 26 women watched videotaped interviews in which he tells police the allegations against him were “hogwash,” yet concedes he is “a bad dude.”

The 12 jurors began listening to 11 hours of videotaped interviews with Robert Pickton on Tuesday, the second day of the most sensational murder trial Canada has faced.

Pickton, 56, has been charged with 26 counts of first-degree murder. Most of the victims were prostitutes and drug addicts who vanished from a drug-ridden Vancouver neighborhood in the 1990s. He has pleaded not guilty to the first six counts. A separate trial will be held for the other 20 murder charges.

The interviews show Pickton telling an undercover police officer that he killed 49 women and intended to make it “an even 50” before he got sloppy and was caught, prosecutors have said. Pickton would go on to describe himself as a mass murderer who deserved to be on death row, according to government prosecutor Derrill Prevett.

In the interview with Royal Canadian Mounted Police detachment in Surrey, British Columbia, on Feb. 23, 2002, a disheveled Pickton, slumping in his chair, laughs when Staff Sgt. Bill Fordy tells him he is being investigated for “upwards of 50 other disappearances and or murders.”

“In your own words, Rob, can you explain to me what that means to you?” Fordy asks Pickton.

“What it means to me. Hogwash,” Pickton answered. “I’m just a working guy, a plain working guy is all I am,” he says. “I’m just a pig man.”

He then goes on to blurt out, “I’m a bad dude.”

Prosecutors on Monday laid out some of the gruesome evidence against Pickton, including skulls, teeth and DNA of the six women that were found in the freezer, slaughterhouse and troughs at Pickton’s 17-acre (7-hectare) pig farm outside of Vancouver.

Pickton’s lawyer, Peter Ritchie, has said his client did not kill or participate in the murders of the six women.

Pickton and his brother David raised pigs on the farm in Port Coquitlam, a working-class community on the outskirts of Vancouver. The farm was razed in 2002 and the province of British Columbia spent an estimated US$61 million (euro47 million) to sift through the soil.

The first trial covers the murders of Sereena Abotsway, Mona Wilson, Andrea Joesbury, Brenda Wolfe, Georgina Papin and Marnie Frey.

Unlike the chaotic scene Monday at the courthouse, there were 10 empty seats in the 50-seat courtroom on Tuesday as many family members said they could not stomach further testimony. About 300 media have been accredited for the trial.

Rob Papin, a cousin of Georgina Papin, said he was attending for his relatives and to help other families, especially as the victims are referred to as prostitutes and drug addicts.

“When the labels start coming out it really pisses me off because I think it’s easier for them to try to dehumanize the victims than to actually see them for who they were — mothers, daughters, especially women,” Papin told The Canadian Press.

When police first visited the farm in 2002 to investigate, they found two skulls in a bucket inside a freezer in Pickton’s mobile home. DNA testing identified the skulls as belonging to Abotsway and Joesbury, two missing sex workers from an impoverished Vancouver neighborhood.

Prevett said one of Joesbury’s earrings was found in the slaughterhouse. He said human bones were found mixed with manure and that part of Wolfe’s jaw, with five teeth still attached, was found in a pig trough.

Pickton, clean-shaven with a bald crown, sat emotionless in a specially built defendant’s box surrounded by bulletproof glass. He carried a notebook and thick green binder which appears to carry legal documents.

If found guilty of more than 14 of the 26 charges, Pickton would become the worst convicted killer in Canadian history, after Marc Lepine, who gunned down 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic in Montreal in 1989 before shooting himself.

Pickton faces life in prison as Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.

A Royal Canadian task force investigating the missing women from the gritty Vancouver neighborhood says 102 women once believed to be missing have been found alive. More than 60 women remain on the list, as well as three unidentified DNA profiles from the Pickton farm.

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