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China's new missile vessel ready for debut: report

TAIPEI -- The appearance of a picture of China's second 052D guided missile destroyer on the Internet recently has aroused speculation in China that the country's most advanced version of the warship is ready for the sea.

Television station HBTV in Hubei province, central China reported that the vessel in the picture was decorated with Chinese flags and other features which suggested that it was ready for launch.

It is not unusual for China to release pictures of its new state-developed military weaponry to Internet users before confirming their existence, said HBTV.

A political commentator Zhang Bin told HBTV that the launch of the destroyer would be a milestone in China's naval buildup, as it will send a veiled warning to other countries, especially Japan, which is embroiled in a territory dispute with China over the Diaoyutai Islands, an archipelago in the East China Sea.

Noting that following his party's victory in Japan's Dec. 16 parliamentary election, Shinzo Abe, president of the Liberal Democratic Party, said the country's sovereignty over the Diaoyutais is beyond dispute, Zhang said the launch of China's second 052D destroyer will force Abe to lower his voice when making similar claims in the future.

The discovery of the image on the Internet after Abe's remarks could not be a coincidence, said Zhang.

He recalled that a picture of China's first aircraft carrier Liaoning appeared on the Internet on Sept. 25, shortly after U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited Beijing.

A picture of China's stealth fighter jet J-31 was posted on the Internet on Nov. 5 during the height of the Sino-Japanese dispute over the Diaoyutais.

And a picture showing the successful test flight of China's J-15 fighter jets on its aircraft carrier appeared on Nov. 25, shortly after U.S. President Barrack Obama visited three Southeast Asian countries, including China's close allies Myanmar and Cambodia.

As a successor of the 052C, the 052D destroyer was billed as China's version of the Aegis, the U.S. state-of-the-art warship. It is equipped with 64 vertical missile launch cells, allowing for the quick firing of anti-air, anti-ship and ground-attack missiles.

December 26, 2012    mc@
The US may be king of the jungle but surely it won't want to tangle with China even though it can prevail. The PLA may not be even 50% of US military power but it has a devastating punch, unlike Korea or even the China of 1996 when US carriers could sail thru the Taiwan Straits to intimidate/coerce the PLA. No more the blatant or arrogant display of US power. For starters, in a Taiwan Scenario these carriers on a fool’s errand will be sunk. This is the reality of 2012.
China aint trying to take over the world or even Asia. They have enough of western especially US bullying. These weapons are necessary for China's defense so that the Pentagon will realize, not belatedly, the PLA is no more of the human wave era. Any US attack on China will invite retaliation on US bases and territory. Even if the US were to encircle China and have missile defenses it won't escape unscathed.
The PLA will make 100% or should I say 500% sure even if China becomes a razing inferno, the US will be a landscape full of pot holes.
December 26, 2012    mc@
The US is very fond of saying NK nuclear missile launch is a threat to the international community. It should be a puny threat to the US. Only the US will attack NK with nw. That is why the US doesn't want other nations to have nw so they can attack that particular country with immunity and impunity like in Vietnam and Iraq. China falls into this category.
China, however, is different. Although not in the same league with the US, it can hit back with devastating power. This missile destroyer is part of China's defence. In words, the US says it welcomes China rise but its actions betray its undisguised attempt to contain and encircle China.
The PLA must make absolutely sure China is not the China of the past two hundred years. The PLA need not attempt to sprint to parity with US power. The ability of the PLA to cause unacceptable destruction and damage on US assets will be good enough to deter the US from imposing a n attack or will on China. That is why PLA modernization is causing unrest in the Pentagon. They will have to get used to China of the 21st century.
December 26, 2012    spshiff@
After World War 2, what country helped others, including its former enemies, to rebuild? This is called forgiveness, an adult quality. That was rejected by Mainland China. If you want to define bullying, look at China's history. Not only bullying its own people but every country around it.
You are correct, the world hopes to meet the China not from the past 200 years, or the past 2000 years. Instead, an adult, honest and responsible China; to participate as an adult in the next century, rather than flout her wounds from the past century.
Please don't get caught up in 9- dash map brainwashing, and military toys to masturbate over. That is too knee-jerk, expected of American voters and Pentagon budget makers.
December 26, 2012    billythekid@
China's missile drive is given by the fact that it is militarily weaker than many people - like mc - think, especially compared to the United States. Should other nations militarily join the US against China, China would be reduced back to the times of the Qin dynasty or beyond.

The US and its allies can and will counter any missile attack with anti-ballistic-missile systems including warships carrying SM-3 missiles and land-based U.S. Army Patriot and Terminal High-Altitude Air-Defense batteries.

Missiles are one-shot weapons. You don’t get to reuse them the way you would a jet fighter or a destroyer. That means, in wartime, the commies have to win fast — or lose. China’s entire inventory of conventional ballistic missiles could deliver about a thousand tons of high explosives on their targets. The U.S. Air Force’s aircraft, by comparison, could deliver several times that amount of high explosives every day for an indefinite period.

Smart and even mediocre smart Chinese people know this. mc, unfortunately for him, does not and openly displays his ignorance.
December 26, 2012    ong709@
The Chinese have extremely high level of tolerance and as long as they can bring food to the table for their family, they can accept intimidation, inefficient and even a very corrupted government.

That was the reason why they never strike back even though their husbands and sons were brutally killed and their wives and daughters were gang-raped during the riot in Indonesia of which many said was engineered by General Wiranto and endorsed by President Suharto.

The Chinese have done a calculated cowardly risk and knew it wasn’t a battle for them thus they migrated leaving behind the debris but not before transferred billions of dollars out of Indonesia (mostly to Singapore).

If Japan, the US, NATO and China's neighboring nations would attach, nothing from its history indicates that China's reaction will be any different from what it always has been. With our without thousands of missiles.

December 27, 2012    mc@
So billythekid thinks China is going to start a war. Nothing can be further from the truth. We all know the US can pulverize China to smithereens if it so chooses. But a heavy price will be exacted. That is why the US always to retain the upper hand but, imho, the fiscal demands will see that it will be unable to maintain its hegemony indefinitely.
The Roman Empire lasted some four to five hundred years. The sun was not supposed to set on the British Empire. The financial burden eventually forced the demise of both. It will happen to the US or it will turn into a banana/orange republic.
Nevertheless the PLA wants to make absolutely sure if the US wants to attack China, it risks unacceptable destruction and damage. Btw, don't give bs about defending the US from attack. The Vietnam War is a good example. btk shd read the US secret files about how the Pentagon conspired to provoke the NV who acted in self defense.
It won't surprise me if a similar thing happened with the Chinese. Fortunately the Chinese can retaliate unlike Korea and the opium war. That is what rankles the US.
January 10, 2013    theTruth@
mc@ wrote:
The US may be king of the jungle but surely it won't want to tangle with China even though it can prevail. The PLA may not be even 50% of US military power but it has a devastating punch, unlike Korea or even the China of 1996 when US carriers could sail thru the Taiwan Straits to intimidate/coerce the PLA. No more the blatant or arrogant display of US power. For starters, in a Taiwan Scenario these carriers on a fool’s errand will be sunk. This is the reality of 2012.
China aint trying to take over the world or even Asia. They have enough of western especially US bullying. These weapons are necessary for China's defense so that the Pentagon will realize, not belatedly, the PLA is no more of the human wave era. Any US attack on China will invite retaliation on US bases and territory. Even if the US were to encircle China and have missile defenses it won't escape unscathed.
The PLA will make 100% or should I say 500% sure even if China becomes a razing inferno, the US will be a landscape full of pot holes.
Based on past history of the PLA, the "Punch" isn't that great. Ask the Vietnamese army.
And as far as China "not trying to take over" Asia, you might want to look at their actions in the South China Sea, Philippines, and going back a bit Tibet.
January 12, 2013    leejh27@
spshiff@ wrote:
After World War 2, what country helped others, including its former enemies, to rebuild? This is called forgiveness, an adult quality. That was rejected by Mainland China. If you want to define bullying, look at China's history. Not only bullying its own people but every country around it.
You are correct, the world hopes to meet the China not from the past 200 years, or the past 2000 years. Instead, an adult, honest and responsible China; to participate as an adult in the next century, rather than flout her wounds from the past century.
Please don't get caught up in 9- dash map brainwashing, and military toys to masturbate over. That is too knee-jerk, expected of American voters and Pentagon budget makers.
The U.S. utilized debt built up by China (ROC) in order to weaken and divide the country permanently only to give the Communists a chance to take the country which turned China into an anti-U.S. nation. This has much to do with the PRC's anti-U.S. stance. That the U.S. finds any way possible to weaken China before, during, and after WW2.
January 14, 2013    Karlschneiderg1@
Blah blah blah. Most of you seem to forget that China doesn't have to fire a single shot to devastate the US. The US is in a extremely sensitive economic situation at the moment, what do you think happens when China starts to get rid of all its US $? The US is China's goose that lays the golden egg. China isn't stupid enough to try to cut it open. Believe it or not an economically strong US BENEFITS China. They are laughing all the way to the bank and conquering the US monetarily while the US bleeds out its finances on a bloated military.
January 17, 2013    poeboy418@
To the above poster, bloated military or not China doesn't want to see the light of war with the US just as the US doesn't want war with China, however don't mistake the US kindness for weakness. The US isn't the ones bullying smaller nations to bow down to it's will or else unlike China, who seems to think anything near them or even further out belongs to them. New missile ship compared to the US AEGIS system, ha that was a good chuckle that comment gave me. The US isn't going to put our carriers in harms way for them to be taken out by a ship, land based missile or sea based missile for that matter. Carriers are termed power projection for a reason, because they can get the job done without having the ship put directly in the line of fire. And yes monetarily China does hold onto a lot of the US debt but China itself has it's own problems monetarily, while their GDP is growing by leaps and bounds, especially in the military department, they suffer just as much economically. All you people who seem to think the US is scared of China, please get a grip on reality. While everything is often politically to squash squabbles between countries, the US is still the world’s biggest military, both by numbers and by technology.
January 20, 2013    youngtysong@
Economic weapon may not be that effective.
January 22, 2013    billythekid@
@mc So billythekid thinks China is going to start a war...

No, I said the opposite. Take off your blindfold and learn to read!
January 23, 2013    areyousure@
billythekid@ wrote:
China's missile drive is given by the fact that it is militarily weaker than many people - like mc - think, especially compared to the United States. Should other nations militarily join the US against China, China would be reduced back to the times of the Qin dynasty or beyond.

The US and its allies can and will counter any missile attack with anti-ballistic-missile systems including warships carrying SM-3 missiles and land-based U.S. Army Patriot and Terminal High-Altitude Air-Defense batteries.

Missiles are one-shot weapons. You don’t get to reuse them the way you would a jet fighter or a destroyer. That means, in wartime, the commies have to win fast — or lose. China’s entire inventory of conventional ballistic missiles could deliver about a thousand tons of high explosives on their targets. The U.S. Air Force’s aircraft, by comparison, could deliver several times that amount of high explosives every day for an indefinite period.

Smart and even mediocre smart Chinese people know this. mc, unfortunately for him, does not and openly displays his ignorance.
You forget one interesting fact. Missiles can be produced faster and in greater quantity than fighter jets. China's military has a huge industrial backend which can easily provide the necessary arms.
February 3, 2013    s.c.rolfe@
The Americans here keep saying we aren’t worried about the Chinese!
Oh yeah what a load of rubbish.........if not why do you constantly discuss on Chinese military matters, because deep down the US is scared shitless of how the Chinese military has gone from virtually nowhere, to fielding its own high tech weapons in less than a couple of decades. The truth hurts............an American carrier battle group would be decimated if it ever ventured into the Chinese seas......and remember its US money which is also paying for the Chinese military budget...............bai bai
March 7, 2013    knappb59@
All commies, PCR has to remember, Japan and Germany tried these tactics, 50 years back or so. Dinosaur age, tryin’ to dominate the world in takeover power, and the freedom fighters of the world, backed by God prevailed (all power mongers, will get their day of judgment, very soon by Jesus. The sooner the commies realize this around the world, the better for us law abiding people will be.
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